Well, the sermon the KJB was okay. However, I'm not sure about some of the stuff that the speaker said. I need to keep reading the Sam Gipp book I guess. He talked about the KJB being the most used version of God over the past several hundred years, but I don't think that makes sense. But then he talked about the KJB being right because it uses the Received Text, which is something that I read in Gipp's book too. So I need to look that up. I think I need to figure out what I believe, and not just believe something just because it's what I've always been taught.
And Shelby called me last night. She said she wanted to apologize for being so harsh about the book. She said that she talked with her pastor, and she realized that this is the only life I've ever known. So she understands a little bit of why I'm using the book as my guide. But I decided not to use it anyway.
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I stumbled across your blog this morning. It sounds like you're going through a lot of rough things. I went through some of the same tough decisions that you're having to think through. For the KJB debate, I would really recommend the book "From the Mind of God to the Mind of Man."
http://www.amazon.com/Mind-God-Man-Laymans-Guide/dp/1889893382
Also, I think the best thing to do is use common sense. When you read the phrase "superfluity of naughtiness", what does that mean? The readers in 1611 knew, but our language has changed. How we would say it today is "all that remains of wickedness."
What about the words "avouch," "bruit," "collop," "durst," "emerods," "concupiscense," "greaves," and "wist"? If words are not in our language anymore, does God expect us to read our Bible with a dictionary to understand His Word? Why not just change the old word "concupiscense" to what we call it today: "sexual desire" or "lust." People throughout the first 1500 years of the world re-translated the Bible often to fine-tune the wording and make it clearer for a specific language. After all, it's the ORIGINAL languages that were inspired, and we want our Bibles to be as close to that as possible. But suddenly with the KJB, "no one can do that anymore." Sounds kind of silly to me.
One more general thing: when you have been taught a lot of man-made rules about the Bible, and you finally understand that some of them were wrong, it's easy to throw away EVERYTHING you were taught. I pray that this is not what happens to you. Instead, read the Bible always keeping an eye on what Jesus Christ has done for you. Remember His salvation and desire to follow Him. I'd recommend reading Galatians, Ephesians and Colossians. They really helped me discern between man-made laws about God and what it means to truly love God with your heart. Remember that Jesus said that his commandments are NOT burdensome.
Hey man, I know right where you are. My wife stumbled across your blog and gave me the link.
I too grew up in an independent Baptist home, but I had the blessing of attending churches that not only held standards, but also preached the Word and sound doctrine. It can really be confusing if you don't have your own reasons for believing what your parents taught you; I know from experience.
If you want to talk to someone who knows where you're at and can help encourage you, comment on my blog and I'll give you my e-mail or IM addresses.
God bless, brother...hang in there and NEVER doubt the King James Bible!
Vince
I read through your blog this morning. I grew up KJVO, but am not any longer. Also I do not maintain the music and other "standards" either.
If you give up these things (KJVO, no pants on women, no modern styles of music) be prepared to be virtually excommunicated by your family. I'm just saying.
Dating with a Purpose huh? Jack Schaap right? Your church must be in the Hammond/Hyles loop somehow.
You need to make a decision. If you want the full fellowship and affections of your family stop questioning. Especially the KJVO thing. If you drop KJVO you will have turned into a heretic of the rankest sort, in their eyes.
You will find, at the bitter end, that the KJVO issue is the big issue. The one big thing that people either can or can't get around. Understand this- you do not have to doubt the KJV in order to not be KJVO. You can use the KJV as your primary version and not be KJVO. Educate yourself WELL on this issue from both sides. Read White's book, as well as "One Bible Only?". Also pick up Peter Ruckman's "Errors in the King James Bible."- this one is pro-KJVO.
Here is a tidbit for you. Jack Hyles has always used the KJV as his primary translation, but was not KJVO until 1984. Toss that little bombshell around and see how much trouble you get into.
Ask yourself some questions:
WHICH edition of the Textus Receptus was used in the making of the KJV NT and how did the translators make the choice?
WHICH Bible was the inspired Word of God before the KJV?
WHERE is the original manuscript of the KJV- if it is not available then KJVOs really don't have a final authority.
WHICH edition of the KJV is the inspired word of God, especially if you argue the preservation of every jot and tittle.
Oh, and check out my blog at dthatcher.blogspot.com
God promised to give His perfect Word and preserve it. Never doubt that, no matter WHAT anyone else tells you.
Hey man,
God bless! I know your struggle and have been through the very same stuff. A friend and I started a blog and a forum a while back exactly for this purpose. Would love to help and encourage you in any way we can! Take care!
www.freefromthebox.blogspot.com
Mark,
I encourage you to keep following Christ. Keep yearning to please Him. And pray for wisdom.
Then be a Berean. Study things out. I've been in a similar position as you. Check out my blog where I discuss many of these issues and I share my story (warning it's a bit long).
Realize others love God and yet conclude differently in some areas. That's okay. Rom. 14 and 15:1-7 tell us about that. We should prize the unity of the spirit (Eph. 4:1-3).
As far as the KJV issue goes, I have designed a website that tries to help someone think through the issue while not necessarily answering all the questions for you. I collect some of the best arguments for the issue on both sides and recommend some of the better books on each side. Check it out: King James Only Research Center.
I'd encourage you to be careful as you date. The most important thing is that she loves the Lord and is willing to follow you and support you. Touching can be dangerous, it can really affect you and throw you off guard. Also, while you're thinking through important issues that will impact your life -- positions and stands and what kind of church is best, etc.; I think you should take the dating really slow and cautious.
I'll be thinking and praying for you. Feel free to comment on my blog or send me an email.
Blessings to you from Jesus,
Bob Hayton
Just read the disclaimer in post #1 (it's barely readable). So this isn't happening right now to a guy calling himself Mark. But nevertheless, the stories are true to life for some, and the blog is worthwhile for causing some to think through things. This might explain the lack of comments from the author.
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